A cross-IP collaboration is tearing open the biggest rift in the anime gaming community — the second wave of the Honkai: Star Rail x Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] collab features 'Tohsaka Rin,' but players have discovered that her skill set heavily borrows from the Ishtar-possessed Rin exclusive to Fate/Grand Order (FGO), causing a direct worldbuilding contradiction that has blown up across the global community.
First, a key lore point: 'Ishtarin' (the goddess Ishtar possessing Rin's body via pseudo-Servant summoning) exists only within FGO's storyline, born from the Incineration of Humanity — she is an entirely separate character from the Tohsaka Rin in the UBW route. However, as leak details trickled out, overseas fans were first stunned to see 'UBW Rin' wielding the Jeweled Sword Zelretch — a weapon that only appears in the Heaven's Feel (HF) route — and then received a second shock upon spotting FGO Ishtar's signature sky-ship Maanna and Archer Rin's Noble Phantasm animation.
The original poster bluntly called this 'bait-and-switch — shameless and desperate for clout.' Memes are now flooding international platforms, with significant backlash. The Chinese Fate community (often called the 'Moonie' fandom) has been almost unanimously vocal in their criticism; the OP said they mainly came for the memes. Players also pointed out Rin using a smartphone is a severe case of OOC (Out of Character).
The comment section is equally heated. One player remarked, 'Neither the collab host nor the guest gives a damn about public opinion,' to which someone fired back: 'Nasu probably doesn't care, but HoYoverse is different — their legal team is already swinging.' Others went full nihilistic: 'The pen is in Nasu's hands. Their companies are in Shanghai and Japan. Go sue them if you want.'
But the juiciest revelation came from the comments: a widely-shared 'interview screenshot' had been circulating in the community, claiming that Nasu Kinoko (Fate's original creator) told the Honkai: Star Rail producer that 'although the collab is UBW, he didn't want to limit it to just that' — supposedly authorizing the cross-worldline content. Multiple commenters, however, dug into the original interview and found this passage simply does not exist.
What Nasu actually discussed was explaining to the Honkai producer the differences between the Saber in Fate/stay night versus FGO, letting him pick which version to use. Somehow this got 'rewritten by history' (a Chinese internet slang for deliberate distortion of facts) into 'Nasu authorized using the entire Fate IP however they want.' The viral interview screenshot was confirmed to be an AI-generated summary — specifically from Doubao (ByteDance's AI chatbot) — which got the context completely mixed up. As one commenter put it: 'The fact that both Chinese and foreign forums used the same image should tell you something's wrong. If the real interview existed, there'd definitely be a Simplified Chinese version.'
As for the collab's legitimacy, some argued 'the IP holder approved it during review, so they agreed.' But opponents countered that official authorization doesn't mean you can freely stitch together incompatible character versions. Honkai players themselves weighed in with sarcasm: 'Star Rail players finally get to experience the joy of aggressive monetization too' (a jab at HoYoverse's reputation). Others joked, 'Nasu: They paid way too much for the collab, and the characters are even going to the standard banner — imagine how much they must have shelled out.'
The controversy continues to escalate: memes keep pouring in, the Fate fandom keeps raging, and the debunked AI-generated 'interview authorization' has added an absurd layer to what has become one of the largest gacha community spectacles in recent memory.
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